I am offloading many background operations (like web access, and DB operations) to AsyncTasks in order to make my application run faster. It partially works, because the UI does not hang. But it still takes the app a long time to settle (i.e. finish the background tasks).
When looking at the logcat I noticed that all the background tasks (AsyncTask) run one after the other. No concurrency. How can one write a truly multi-threaded application?
Reading the AsyncTask's documentation you can see that indeed Android runs all non-main-thread tasks in a single thread. See "order of execution" in http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/AsyncTask.html
But there you also have the solution: use executeOnExecutor(java.util.concurrent.Executor, Object[]) with THREAD_POOL_EXECUTOR.
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I'm following this tutorial to create an XML reader with options to download multiple feeds at once. Are there any downsides to executing multiple AsyncTasks (max 3) simultaneously? I'm going to add a timer to check if they finished.
Running multiple AsyncTasks at the same time -- not possible? It is possible. However it could be, that due to the cpu depending on each device, one is faster than the other. But as #Alex already answered, you wont get "real" multitasking. Haven't it tried yet I would assume, that doing it all in one AsyncTask is faster. And you could reuse the connection you established to the server.
For better architecture I'll choose 1 AsyncTask per request. It is easier to manage actual request. Also it would be easier to modify (add/remove request).
Downsides of executing multiple AsyncTasks depend on your knowledge of AsyncTask lifecycle. You need to execute it correctly (depends on android version).
Good article about the dark side of Async tasks http://bon-app-etit.blogspot.com.by/2013/04/the-dark-side-of-asynctask.html
They won't be run simultaneously, but serially. See here:
When first introduced, AsyncTasks were executed serially on a single
background thread. Starting with DONUT, this was changed to a pool of
threads allowing multiple tasks to operate in parallel. Starting with
HONEYCOMB, tasks are executed on a single thread to avoid common
application errors caused by parallel execution.
If you truly want parallel execution, you can invoke
executeOnExecutor(java.util.concurrent.Executor, Object[]) with
THREAD_POOL_EXECUTOR
I have already developed an Activity which will parse JSON data and display the results in a ListView. I am using an AsyncTask for this purpose.
What I want now is that, when I click on an item in the ListView, the file should start downloading. Can I write another AsyncTask in the same activity so that this AsyncTask will do the downloading work for me? Is there any problem with having multiple AsyncTasks in the same activity?
As per from the Doc yes you can.
When first introduced, AsyncTasks were executed serially on a single
background thread. Starting with DONUT, this was changed to a pool of
threads allowing multiple tasks to operate in parallel. Starting with
HONEYCOMB, tasks are executed on a single thread to avoid common
application errors caused by parallel execution.
If you truly want parallel execution, you can invoke
executeOnExecutor(java.util.concurrent.Executor, Object[]) with
THREAD_POOL_EXECUTOR.
BEst answer How is itself on stackoverflow.
There shouldn't be any problem with multiple Asynctasks in a single activity. You should be careful to clearly define the values that each one manipulates (for example, if task B relies on a value given by task A, make sure that A must finish first), but in general, it should be fine. I have a project right now with three asynctasks running upon first install, and it's ticking along fine thus far.
Yes.. You can.
AsyncTask is simple thread handler implementation.
I was wondering is it ok to execute a Thread inside the doInBackground method of Asynctask. Should I avoid using this kind of structure on my codes? And if yes, why should I avoid it? Would this cause any ineffectiveness in my apps?
In principle, there's no problem with starting a thread in the doInBackground() of an AsyncTask, but sometimes you see this done not because it's the right thing to do, but because of a misunderstanding about how AsyncTask works.
The point is that doInBackground() will automatically get executed on a background (non-GUI) thread, without you needing to create a thread for it yourself. That, in fact, is the whole point of an AsyncTask. So if you have a simple, linear task that you want executed in the background, you do it with an AsyncTask, and you don't need to do any manual thread creation.
Where you might want to start a new thread in an AsyncTask is if you want your background task to use multiple threads to complete. Suppose that you were writing an app to check the online status of various servers, and display something about their status on the screen. You'd use an AsyncTask to do the network access in the background; but if you did it in a naive way, you'd end up with the servers being pinged one by one, which would be rather slow (especially if one was down, and you needed to wait for a timeout). The better option would be to make sure that each server was dealt with on its own background thread. You'd then have a few options, each of which would be defensible:
Have a separate AsyncTask for each server.
Create a thread for each server inside the doInBackground() of your single AsyncTask, and then make sure that doInBackground() doesn't complete until all the individual threads have completed (use Thread.join()).
Use a ThreadPool / some kind of ExecutorService / a fork/join structure inside your single AsyncTask, to manage the threads for you.
I would say that with modern libraries there is rarely a need for manual thread creation. Library functions will manage all of this for you, and take some of the tedium out of it, and make it less error-prone. The third option above is functionally equivalent to the second, but just uses more of the high-level machinery that you've been given, rather than going DIY with your thread creation.
I'm not saying that threads should never be created manually, but whenever you're tempted to create one, it's well worth asking whether there's a high-level option that will do it for you more easily and more safely.
is it ok to execute a Thread inside the doInBackground method of
Asynctask.
yes it is but it really depends on your application and your usage. for example in a multithread server-client app you must create for each incoming clients one thread and also you must listen on another thread. so creating thread inside another is ok. and you can use asynctask for listening to your clients.
Should I avoid using this kind of structure on my codes? And if yes,
why should I avoid it?
If you design it carefully you do not need to avoid, for example make sure that on rotation you do not create another asynctask because for example if your user rotates 5 times you create 5 asynctasks and in each of them you create a thread that means you will get 10 threads, soon you will get memory leak.
Would this cause any ineffectiveness in my apps? Can you explain
these questions please.
I answered it above, I think better idea is using Thread Pool to minimize number of creating your threads or wraping your asynctask in a UI less fragment so you are sure you have one asynctask regardless of whats going to happen.
In any higher programming language, there is concept of multi-tasking. Basically the user needs to run some portion of code without user interaction. A thread is generally developed for that. But in Android, multi-tasking can be done by any of the three methods Thread and AsyncTask.
Thread
A thread is a concurrent unit of execution. It has its own call stack. There are two methods to implement threads in applications.
One is providing a new class that extends Thread and overriding its run() method.
The other is providing a new Thread instance with a Runnable object during its creation.
A thread can be executed by calling its "start" method. You can set the "Priority" of a thread by calling its "setPriority(int)" method.
A thread can be used if you have no affect in the UI part. For example, you are calling some web service or download some data, and after download, you are displaying it to your screen. Then you need to use a Handler with a Thread and this will make your application complicated to handle all the responses from Threads.
A Handler allows you to send and process Message and Runnable objects associated with a thread's MessageQueue. Each thread has each message queue. (Like a To do List), and the thread will take each message and process it until the message queue is empty. So, when the Handler communicates, it just gives a message to the caller thread and it will wait to process.
If you use Java threads then you need to handle the following requirements in your own code:
Synchronization with the main thread if you post back results to the user interface
No default for canceling the thread
No default thread pooling
No default for handling configuration changes in Android
AsyncTask
AsyncTask enables proper and easy use of the UI thread. This class allows performing background operations and publishing results on the UI thread without having to manipulate threads and/or handlers. An asynchronous task is defined by a computation that runs on a background thread and whose result is published on the UI thread.
AsyncTask will go through the following 4 stages:
1. onPreExecute()
Invoked on the UI thread before the task is executed
2. doInbackground(Params..)
Invoked on the background thread immediately after onPreExecute() finishes executing.
3. onProgressUpdate(Progress..)
Invoked on the UI thread after a call to publishProgress(Progress...).
4. onPostExecute(Result)
Invoked on the UI thread after the background computation finishes.
And there are lot of good resources over internet which may help you:
http://www.vogella.com/articles/AndroidBackgroundProcessing/article.html http://www.mergeconflict.net/2012/05/java-threads-vs-android-asynctask-which.html
I would say there is no problem in doing that if you need something to run concurrently beside the AsyncTask.
One issue could be one of readability (using 2 different ways for concurrency), but I really can't see the harm in that - especially if one of the tasks needs to show it's result in the UI and the other one doesn't.
In my app, I have to call a method which does some heavy work (I can feel device lagging). To avoid this I created an AsyncTask and it works perfectly fine.
I implemented the same thing using a Thread and here, too, it does not give any hiccup and works fine.
Now my question is which one better performance-wise - AsyncTask or Thread.
I know AsyncTask uses a threadpool to perform background tasks but in my case it will be called only once. So I don't think it will create any problems.
Can someone throw some light on it. Which one should I use for better performance?
Note: Both are being called in my Activity e.g. from UI the thread.
Can someone throw some light on it. Which one should I use for better
performance?
I think if you imagine case when you start once native Thread and AsyncTask i think that performance won't differ.
Usually native threads are used in the case if you don't want to inform potential USER with relevant information about progress in some task via UI. Here, native threads fail because they are not synchronized with UI thread and you cannot perform manipulating with UI from them.
On the other hand, AsyncTask combines background work with UI work and offers methods which are synchronized with UI and allow performing UI updates whenever you want via invoking proper methods of its lifecycle.
Generally if some task lasts more than 5 seconds you should inform USER that
"something working on the background, please wait until it will be finished"
For sure, this can be reached with both in different ways but this strongly depends on character of your task - if you need to show progress of task(how much MB is already downloaded, copying number of files and show name of each in progress dialog etc.) or you don't(creating some big data structure in "silent" only with start and end message for instance).
So and at the end of my asnwer:
Which one should I use for better performance?
Completely right answer i think you cannot get because each developer has different experiences, different coding style. How i mentioned, their performance not differ. I think that it's same(if you will read 50 MB file, it won't be faster read neither native thread nor AsyncTask). It depends again on character of task and your personal choice.
Update:
For tasks that can last much longer periods of time, you can try to think also about API tools provided by java.util.concurrent package(ThreadPoolExecutor, FutureTask etc.)
Async tasks are also threads. But they have some utility methods that make it very easy to small background tasks and get back to the UI to make changes to it. The performance would depend on your specific use case. Making absolute statements as to which one is always better would be simplistic and meaningless.
Note that the main advantage of Async tasks over threads is that Async tasks provide helper methods such as onPreExecute(), doInBackground(), onProgressUpdate() and onPostExecute() which make it very easy to perform short background tasks while also interacting with the UI (such as updating a progress bar). These kinds of methods are not available in generic Threads. Basically, Async tasks are threads with UI interaction component built in. Yes, you can use workarounds to try and update the UI from regular threads as well but Async tasks have been specifically built for this purpose and you don't have to deal with Context leaks and so on if you follow it's abstractions.
Async tasks are created to make developers' lives easier.
To sum up:
Async tasks are also threads
Async tasks make it easy to interact with UI while doing short background tasks
Neither is inherently more efficient. It depends on what you want to do.
Good rule of thumb: Use Async tasks if you need to get back to/update the UI after you are done with your background task. Use a regular thread if you don't.
The most common use of Thread are short-term tasks because they need a lot of power and tend to drain the battery and heat the phone up.
And the common use of AsyncTasks are lengthy tasks because of the same battery drain.
But a Thread is far more powerfull, because an AsyncTasks internally uses a Thread itself, but you don't have to configure that much.
ASYNC TASK and Thread do the same thing,
The difference is that you have more control on bare thread and you can benefit from the power of CPU in terms of complex implementation, the velocity of performance depends on your approach on how you implement the threading.
Depending on this article I can say that asynchronous multithreading is the fastest way to perform complex tasks.
https://blog.devgenius.io/multi-threading-vs-asynchronous-programming-what-is-the-difference-3ebfe1179a5
Regarding showing updates to user on UI thread, you can do that by posting on UI from the background thread (check UIhandler and View.Post)
I have an Android application which has the main UI thread, and several other worker threads which I have spawned using ASyncTask.
However, there is a scenario that I can produce every time in which I attempt to spawn a new thread with ASyncTask using task.execute(), and it does not call doInBackground(). The thread never seems to start. Then my application seems to spin for a little while, and then begins to hang.
Here are the threads I am using:
And here is the memory usage on the device:
It does not look as though it is failing to spawn due to memory issues.
Is there some other underlying reason that I do not know of? Maximum number of threads? Is there any way for me to find out why it is not executing?
AsyncTask uses a ThreadPoolExecutor used internally with a core pool size of 5 and a LinkedBlockingQueue. In simpler terms: you can have atmost 5 AsyncTasks active at the same time. Additional tasks will be queued till one of the other AsyncTasks does not return from doInBackground().
You may want to review your code to free up some AsyncTasks. If thats not possible, you can try to create a CustomAsyncTask class in your project based on the original AsyncTask code which can be found here. Try setting the CORE_POOL_SIZE variable to a higher value or using a SynchronousQueue.
Did you read the docs?
Note: this function schedules the task on a queue for a single
background thread or pool of threads depending on the platform
version. When first introduced, AsyncTasks were executed serially on a
single background thread. Starting with DONUT, this was changed to a
pool of threads allowing multiple tasks to operate in parallel. After
HONEYCOMB, it is planned to change this back to a single thread to
avoid common application errors caused by parallel execution. If you
truly want parallel execution, you can use the
executeOnExecutor(Executor, Params...) version of this method with
THREAD_POOL_EXECUTOR; however, see commentary there for warnings on
its use.
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