Application threads vs Service threads - android

What are the advantages/disadvantages in placing a lengthy network access code in a thread in an activity or a thread in a service? How would it affect the application? I am writing a streaming audio player and from what I've read so far putting the code in a service will still end up blocking the application so a new thread is needed, does anyone know if it makes more sense to put this piece of code in a service.

Yes, a blocking operation in a Service will still block the application. Despite first appearances, Services are not simply for running tasks in the background. They are for running tasks with a lifecycle that is independent of the Activity lifecycle (IE, they may continue after the Activity is closed).
A Service that starts when an Activity starts and ends when the Activity ends is useless.
In your case, where you are streaming audio, you may want to stream audio even after the user closes the Activity, in which case, you should use a Service, but you'll still need a thread (or an AsyncTask) for blocking tasks.

From my experience (1+ years developing Android), there is no difference between running a new thread in a service or in an activity.
Try not to keep a reference to the Activity in the new thread - use the application context.
Also, the service's life-cycle didn't help at all because some methods are not guaranteed to be invoked :(
The only difference may be that the service can be destroyed without destroying the app completely - thus potentially destroying the new threads.
Why potentially? because on the practical side, this doesn't happen. The app ALWAYS gets killed without killing the service before that, meaning: the local service mechanism is useless!!!
Remote service is a different discussion - I was referring only to "where should I run a new thread?".
Good luck!!!

The difference is how the system manages your application process lifecycle. Running threads don't affect the application process lifecycle, but a service does.
To determine which processes should be killed when low on memory, Android places each process into an importance hierarchy based on the components running in them and the state of those components. If your app doesn't have a visible activity or a foreground service but has a background service, it's categorized as a service process and will be kept alive while there less priority cached processes exist. But if the app has neither a visible activity/fragment, foreground service nor a background service, it's categorized as a cached process and can be killed at any time to free system resources, whether it has a running thread or not.
But do not rush to create a background service, there are more modern approaches to deal with background tasks nowadays. Consider alternative solutions described below and in the background processing guide and keep in mind all restrictions associated with background services.
If a thread executes a task which result is required only by an activity, the thread lifecycle should be bound to the activity. In such a case no services are required. It's so called immediate tasks, ViewModel + Kotlin Coroutines + ViewModelScope is a great way to deal with it, see Guide to background processing for more details about different kinds of background tasks.
If the task should be completed whether the user closed you app or not and it's not required to execute it immediately, consider using WorkManager which is a great way to deal with such deferred tasks. See Android Work Manager vs Services? for more details.
Otherwise, if you have an immediate task which lifecycle isn't bound to an activity/fragment, may be a foreground service would be the best choice, especially in case of an audio player. There are some limitations considering background services since Android 8, the system stops an app's background services in several minutes after the app is closed, so it's not a place for a long running task.

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Why use Service if it runs in the same thread in android

I was going through Bound Service in Android Developer website. I thought I understood the service enough but I just found another way of connecting service through Using a Messenger class especially for local service. There I got confused. Maybe I got the concept wrong.
Here is my understanding of Android Service. You create a service when
You want to do separate jobs in the background.
You want to make it a separate process.
You want to make it run in a lifecycle that's independent of the component that started it.
Confusion is the first item in the list, the definition of the background. Isn't the background a thread or process? I never thought that it can run on the main thread.
Here is the caution of service in the dev pages about.
Caution: A service runs in the main thread of its hosting process—the service does not create its own thread and does not run in a separate process (unless you specify otherwise). This means that, if your service is going to do any CPU intensive work or blocking operations (such as MP3 playback or networking), you should create a new thread within the service to do that work. By using a separate thread, you will reduce the risk of Application Not Responding (ANR) errors and the application's main thread can remain dedicated to user interaction with your activities.
Questions
Why does one choose to use service if the service function will anyway run on the main thread?
Do we have to write a service only to block ANR even if the time-consuming job is done in the main thread? Assume the service is only for my application.
Are there any practical cases or reasons to use a service as private and running in the same thread?
Application main thread is not always the UI thread. For example, when Activity is stopped, the onStop() is invoked, hence the UI thread is taken away from that Activity and moved to another Activity within the same or a different application. However it doesn't mean the application is no longer active, it can continue working in the background until it is closed either by OS or by user. Then who keeps it running in the background? It is the main thread and not the UI thread.
What are services
In Android, a Service is an application component that can perform
long-running operations in the background on the UI thread. By
background, it means that it doesn’t have a user interface. A Service
runs on the main thread of the calling Component’s process by default
(and hence can degrade responsiveness and cause ANRs), hence you
should create a new Thread to perform long running operations. A
Service can also be made to run in a completely different process.
Unlike Activity components, Services do not have any graphical
interfaces. Also Broadcast Receivers are for receiving broadcast
messages (broadcast, multicast, unicast) and perform short tasks
whereas Services are meant to do lengthy processing like streaming
music, network transactions, file I/O, interact with databases, etc.
When a Service is started by an application component like an Activity
it runs in the background and keeps running even if the user switches
to another application or the starting component is itself destroyed
Why use service
Services are given higher priority than other Background processes and
hence it’s less likely that Android will terminate it. Although it can
be configured to restart once there is ample resources available
again. You should go through the different processes and their
priority/important level in the documentation on processes and
threads. Assigning them the same priority as foreground activities is
definitely possible in which case it’ll need to have a visible
notification active (generally used for Services playing music).
Use IntentService if you don't want to fiddle with managing threads on your own. Otherwise, use AsyncTasks.
Please read this excellent article to understand more in detail and also read this answer.
Service basically runs in UI thread or main thread.But,if we are going to perform long running operations in service,we need to create a background thread and perform that task.
But why we have to use service?
Now let's think of Music Application.We need songs to be played continuously even if we leave music app.If we use activities,we can't achieve above requirement.So,service helps in these kind of scenarios.Even if the app is not in foreground, service keeps on running and we are able to listen to songs.This is why we use service even though it runs on main thread.
In short, Services runs on the background of the UI thread.
You can perform tasks like client-server authentication or write to a database where the tasks are done in the background with no graphical interface.
But if you're doing a really long processing tasks that could freeze the interface, you use a service on a separate thread.
eg of a Service on a separate thread is IntentService

android service (Keep on running in background statement confused me )

I have some confusion with android service
As per the documentation
It will keep on running in the background on main thread . It doesn't run in a different thread.
My doubt is what is the meaning of keep on running in background . Will it execute the onStartCommand() again and again. I am really very confused with this line (Keep on running in background )
if it will not execute onStartCommand again and again then what is the benefit of Keep on running and if it executes onStartCommand again and again then it is using cpu more and more
Line which confused me is highlighted in the image please have a look
As already noted in a comment, for your particular purpose (monitoring a setting, here: volume), you can follow a non-polling approach which is described e.g. here: Is there a broadcast action for volume changes?
In general, on a modern (though not perfect) environment like Android, there's almost never a reason to actively poll something, because nobody could afford wasting so much resources, and also, you'll always risk to miss events, so you'd be tempted to poll more frequently -- this is a race which your implementation is always going to lose.
Once more, the following statements are plain wrong:
A Service runs on your app's main/UI thread. If you think this is the case then you need to read about the android:process attribute of the manifest's activity tag. Also. even if you do not let your service run in a separate process, the phrase a service runs on your app's main/UI thread suggests that your main/UI thread gets blocked by your service. Of course, hopefully nobody leaves iot art that; it's easy to just process the service's events on your app's main/UI thread and delegate the tasks to worker threads, which is what every sane implementation should do.
With START_STICKY, you can ensure that your service will always be running after it got started. Of course, this is naive and means that whoever claims this has not completely understood the meaning of this flag in conjunction with the description of the process lifecylce for Android Services. Quote: Note this means that most of the time your service is running, it may be killed by the system if it is under heavy memory pressure. If you read the section, you will know that Android is going to kill the process with your running service at any time without notice if it needs memory for another task with higher priority and your service is not related to an app which the user currently looks at. In other words, if the system is low on memory and the user opens a spreadsheet which requires most of the system's memory, then the background internet radio media player and all fancy stuff is likely to get killed, period.
A Service runs on the thread of your app and after started it keeps running until it calls finish() or android needs memory.
But the running doesn't necessary means that it is processing something. onStartCommand() is called only when someone calls startService() on your service.
So the service instead of running always it's always in memory ready to be run when needed. The main use of service is to do some processing that keeps running even if you change activities, like a music player that keeps playing when you are changing activity looking for the next music to play.
Edit: On Documentation "A Service is not a separate process....A Service is not a thread. It is not a means itself to do work off of the main thread".
A Service is "A facility for the application to tell the system about something it wants to be doing in the background"
"A service can be both started and have connections bound to it. In such a case, the system will keep the service running as long as either it is started or there are one or more connections to it with the Context.BIND_AUTO_CREATE flag. Once neither of these situations hold, the service's onDestroy() method is called and the service is effectively terminated."
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why should i use android service instead of java thread

I am confused with android services and java thread.
Please help me to understand in which scenario i should use them.
As per my understanding
Service run in background ,so do thread.
Service is to be used for activities like network operation or playing mp3 in background,so do threads.
So whats actual difference between them and when to use each of them.
Let me give an analogy.
Activities and Service are like projects.
Activities are like external projects. This is what the clients(users) see.
Services are like internal projects. There might be several internal projects for 1 external project or none at all.
You can "pause" external project but the internal project that supports it can still continue.
Main Thread is like the boss in a company
The boss should never be held up by too much work since he shouldn't be late to meetings (UI freezing) or the client(user) will be unhappy.
Threads are like employees in a company.
The more you have, the more things you can do at the same time provided you have enough equipment(CPU speed) for all of them.
Multiple employees can work on the same project at the same time but the boss should really work only on the Activities.
Always: A service of your application is usable not only by other components of your application, but by other applications, too.
A service is for use in not-GUI parts of program.
Mostly: A service is something more independent, than a thread. Service is something more long-living than a thread. Service is something more complex than a thread.
BTW, threads do not run in background only. What runs in foreground, is a thread, too.
I believe the main difference is about Android system attitude. Service is a part of android infrastructure, so android recognizes service as a working part of application and considers killing service as a last option. Moreover, if your service is killed (e.g. because of memory lack) you can say system to restart it automatically, whenever resources available again. Moreover, you can tune up service priority in order to do it as important as foreground activity. As for threads, android does not recognize a thread as important part which must be kept. So usual threads has much more chances to be killed eventually.
For instance If you have an activity which start a working thread and then go background, as android do not recognize thread as a working part, it may think that application do nothing, because no activity or service running and kill the whole app, including the working thread.
Thus when you start a Service, you are telling system something like: "Hi. I'm doing some business here, don't kill me until I finish, please." and Android pay attention to your request.
Services are more analogous to a headless Activity.
The the important piece to understand is that a Service is about managing application lifetime and the ability to keep work running when your Application is not in the foreground (no UI visible). It is also about providing the ability to expose functionality to other apps.
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Service.html#WhatIsAService
Typically when starting a Service you will also start a worker Thread. There are settings in the manifest that can cause a Service to be started in a new Process but generally you do not need to do this, it makes communication with your service more difficult.
Use a just Thread in your Activity when you need to offload work from the UI thread while the application is in the foreground, but this work can stop when you are no longer in the foreground. (It is possible that your app will continue to run when not it foreground but there is no guarantee depending on a number of factors) Generally speaking Android is free to kill your Activity if it is not in the foreground, and if your App process has no Activities or Services it can be killed.
Use a Service with a Thread to do work that will take place while your app is in the background and you want better guarantee about the lifetime.
Use a Service to expose non-UI functionality to other applications.
Android Service don't run in a separate process (by default) and even don't run in a separate thread! It runs in the main thread(UI thread) of the application, therefore if you would like to do something time consuming task in the Service start a separate thread yourself, or use IntentService.
As per Android Developer Guide (http://developer.android.com/guide/components/services.html#Basics) :
A service is simply a component that can run in the background even when the user is not interacting with your application. Thus, you should create a service only if that is what you need.
If you need to perform work outside your main thread, but only while the user is interacting with your application, then you should probably instead create a new thread and not a service. For example, if you want to play some music, but only while your activity is running, you might create a thread in onCreate(), start running it in onStart(), then stop it in onStop(). Also consider using AsyncTask or HandlerThread, instead of the traditional Thread class. See the Processes and Threading document for more information about threads.
Remember that if you do use a service, it still runs in your application's main thread by default, so you should still create a new thread within the service if it performs intensive or blocking operations.
Why we need service is to avoid resource crunch.
For example you opening an application after opening an another application so at the time your app added to the background task.
While opening multiple application, ur app may killed by android system. So if ur app has service it won't be killed by the system because service is higher priority , even it may killed the app has service so that we using constant return type in onStartCommand(). Method. That's START_STICKY,START_NOT_STICKY and DELIVER_INTENT.

Is Android Service useful when I don't need interprocess communication?

It seems that when I don't need interprocess communication, there's almost no reason to use a Service. The only reason I am aware of is this: if my process has a started Service, the process is less likely to be killed.
I could just have a utility class with dontWantToBeKilled() and canBeKilled() methods, which would start / stop a dummy Service. Apart from that, I won't use Services. Is this right?
Yes, there are other reasons.
Your application runs in a process which can be killed by the system whenever it needs more resources.
According to this a running service has a higher priority than an Activity that isn't in the foreground, meaning that the system is more likely to kill an application process that has an Activity in the background than one that has a Service running in the background.
The documentation for Service states that:
If the service has been started, then its hosting process is
considered to be less important than any processes that are currently
visible to the user on-screen, but more important than any process not
visible. Because only a few processes are generally visible to the
user, this means that the service should not be killed except in
extreme low memory conditions.
So, you can use Services to decrease the likelihood of your application process being killed.
Even though the Service runs in the same process as an Activity nothing guarantees you that your Activity will not be killed.
From Processes and Threads:
For example, an activity that's uploading a picture to a web site
should start a service to perform the upload so that the upload can
continue in the background even if the user leaves the activity. Using
a service guarantees that the operation will have at least "service
process" priority, regardless of what happens to the activity. This is
the same reason that broadcast receivers should employ services rather
than simply put time-consuming operations in a thread.
Conclusion:
If you want to do a background operation that will take a while and it's important it finishes correctly, use a Service.
Its not necessary that if A process started service then,Process is likely to be killed.Actually process remain alive or not it does not affect service.As its completely background procedure.May be the situation that you have started a process to just start a service.So process and service can not interrelated like that.
AFAIK i did not got your final question properly.

Difference between Android application spawning thread vs. Service?

I have an Android application that has a need to perform work in the background and on a separate thread. For my first proof-of-concept I subclassed the Application class and inside onCreate() I spawn a Thread that does the background work. This works just great. However, I just realized that in the past I've used a service for situations like this.
The question is, is there a reason to do work on a Thread spawned from a Service instead of a Thread spawned by Application.onCreate()? The Service is supposed to perform "background" work (it uses the UI thread unless a Thread is used, I know) that is independent of the Activity and can run while no Activity is visible. Using an Application-based thread seems to accomplish all this just as well. By not using a Service it actually removes complexity because the Activity just accesses the Application singleton. As far as I know I have no need to bind to the Service.
Will I get bit by lifecycle corner cases that using a Service would prevent? That's the only concern I have over this approach, but otherwise I'm not sold on the benefits of a Service.
The difference would be if you want the thread to run in the background only when the Activity is running or if you want it to continue to run when the user leaves.
Services are capable of running in the background even when the Activity is no longer available. They are intended to be used when your app should continue to do work without any user involvement in the near future. If you run the Thread in the Service, the thread will continue to run even when the user leaves the app. This can be beneficial sometimes as the user may want you to keep downloading a really large file but doesn't want the app to continue to run in the foreground. Then, a few hours (days, months, years) later the user can re-enter the app to read the file.
If, however, you're using a thread that needs to constantly update the UI based on results, it may be more beneficial to launch it within the Activity since it has no real purpose to run in a Service. It also may be easier in your program for your Thread to talk to the UI if it's in the Activity rather than the Service. (There may be some performance benefits as Android doesn't have to handle yet another Service on it's list, but that's purely speculation on my part. I have no proof of it.)
NOTE: Threads created in Activities will still continue to run even when the Activity quits. However, this is merely because the app is still in memory. The Activity and it's thread are on a higher priority to be deleted from memory than a Service thread when the Activity is no longer within view.
If your application is not either in the foreground, or visible, then it's more likely to be killed off by the system. If you run your code as a service, rather than a thread spawned by a background process, then your task will survive for longer. No guarantees, so you still need to manage the process lifecycle properly, but running as a service is likely to give more reliable results.
See http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals/processes-and-threads.html

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