Can service live longer than application - android

In my android application I am using a foreground service which is spawning a thread as a worker. Sometimes I observed the application is killed but the thread is still trying to refer some of the values which are no more available.
Can android decide to kill my application leaving the service still running?
I am stopping the thread in onDestroy() method of my service and hence want to know when Android kills the application, would it call Service:onDestroy().

All the applications in Android runs as a separate process similar to a linux process. So if your service is running in a separate process then the Android might decide to shut down a process at some point, when memory is low and required by other processes that are more immediately serving the user. Application components running in the process that's killed are consequently destroyed. A process is started again for those components when there's again work for them to do.
When deciding which processes to kill, the Android system weighs their relative importance to the user. For example, it more readily shuts down a process hosting activities that are no longer visible on screen, compared to a process hosting visible activities. The decision whether to terminate a process, therefore, depends on the state of the components running in that process. The rules used to decide which processes to terminate is discussed below.
Also you can control that if your service can run in the same process as of your application or in a separate process by using the android:process attribute in the manifest.
For more information You can read about processes and threads on below link:
http://developer.android.com/guide/components/processes-and-threads.html

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Android process in background - it must remain always alive - sometimes it has to play sounds [duplicate]

I have a Service running in the same process as my Application.
Sometimes the Android OS decides to kill my service (probably due to low memory).
My question is: does my Application get killed along with the Service? or how does it work exactly?
Thanks!
First be sure to read: http://developer.android.com/guide/components/processes-and-threads.html#Lifecycle
The key to this is that on Android a process is just a container for code -- or specifically one or more components (activities, services, receivers, providers). By default all components in a .apk get their own, dedicated process, that they all run in together. This is almost always what you want.
When the user is directly interacting with a component of that process (that is an activity) Android will try very hard to keep that process running, and you won't see it killed except under extraordinary circumstances.
When the user is no longer directly interacting with the process, then it becomes expendable relative to other processes as described in the referenced documentation. That is, empty processes (no interesting components) will be killed before processes holding activities that the user had been using, which will be killed before processes with running services. So having a running service will tend to keep your process around at the expense of other processes.
At the same time, we need to deal well with more and more applications leaving services running, often indefinitely, and often with memory leaks. So has a service runs for an increasingly long time, Android will try less and less hard to keep its process going. Effectively this means moving it down to the background bucket until the out of memory killer takes it out. After that, if the service still wants to run, then a new process will be created for it to be restarted in.
The upshot is that for normal services that are running a long time, it is expected behavior that their process will get killed after a while. This doesn't need to stop the service; a service that wants to continue running will do so, it will just need to be instantiated in a new process.
Of course as long as the user is interacting with an activity in your process, the process won't be killed, since this pulls it to the foreground category regardless of what is going on with any services in it.
Processes are killed by the low memory killer, not Applications. So unless you do extra work to get your Service running in a different process, then your Activities are killed along with your Service.
The low memory killer doesn't try to destroy any objects in your process, although the activity manager may call onDestroy on Activity objects that are no longer needed. But that happens as part of the regular activity lifecycle, not due to low memory conditions.
(By the way, I'm unclear whether you mean "application" in general, or your object that extends Application, or whether you mean your Activities that show the UI.)
An application is something that has a user interface and if you have included a service along with it, then definitely it will be killed since Applications are terminated once the cached application queue becomes full
so create Service separate from application or in other words create an other project for it :)
btw, i'm not an experienced Android developer but thats i think what i learned by watching the Android development life cycle videos by Google

Difference between a process and service?

I want to know what is the difference between a process and a service in an android app?
I tried to study about this topic a lot, but did not clear my basics yet...please help?
A process and a service are two different things:
What is a Service?
Most confusion about the Service class actually revolves around what it is not:
A Service is not a separate process. The Service object itself does not imply it is running in its own process; unless otherwise specified, it runs in the same process as the application it is part of.
A Service is not a thread. It is not a means itself to do work off of the main thread (to avoid Application Not Responding errors).
Thus a Service itself is actually very simple, providing two main features:
A facility for the application to tell the system about something it wants to be doing in the background (even when the user is not directly interacting with the application). This corresponds to calls to Context.startService(), which ask the system to schedule work for the service, to be run until the service or someone else explicitly stop it.
A facility for an application to expose some of its functionality to other applications. This corresponds to calls to Context.bindService(), which allows a long-standing connection to be made to the service in order to interact with it.
source: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Service.html
What is a Process
When an application component starts and the application does not have any other components running, the Android system starts a new Linux process for the application with a single thread of execution. By default, all components of the same application run in the same process and thread (called the "main" thread). If an application component starts and there already exists a process for that application (because another component from the application exists), then the component is started within that process and uses the same thread of execution. However, you can arrange for different components in your application to run in separate processes, and you can create additional threads for any process.
source: http://developer.android.com/guide/components/processes-and-threads.html#Processes

Android Background Process

I am wondering that why there is still a process running even I had already left(pressing back button) the Flickr and the Messenger apps in the picture above?
Recently I wrote an app that contains a service, I've found that if there is still a process running, the service will less likely be killed by the system.
So how does the apps above keep processes running in background?
They uses background service that will stay alive even if you quit the app.. as the documentation said
The Android system will attempt to keep the process hosting a service around as long as the service has been started or has clients bound to it
As long the app is not ended service will stay alive unless there is no memory left.
When running low on memory and needing to kill existing processes, the priority of a process hosting the service will be the higher of the following possibilities:
If the service is currently executing code in its onCreate(), onStartCommand(), or onDestroy() methods, then the hosting process will be a foreground process to ensure this code can execute without being killed.
If the service has been started, then its hosting process is considered to be less important than any processes that are currently visible to the user on-screen, but more important than any process not visible. Because only a few processes are generally visible to the user, this means that the service should not be killed except in extreme low memory conditions.
If there are clients bound to the service, then the service's hosting process is never less important than the most important client. That is, if one of its clients is visible to the user, then the service itself is considered to be visible.
A started service can use the startForeground(int, Notification) API to put the service in a foreground state, where the system considers it to be something the user is actively aware of and thus not a candidate for killing when low on memory. (It is still theoretically possible for the service to be killed under extreme memory pressure from the current foreground application, but in practice this should not be a concern.)
you can learn more about Service here
The back button doesn't end the app, its like minimizing them in Windows. TO end them they need to be call finish. Androiud's design (which I think is a stupid, insecure idea, but its how it works) is that apps will not exit unless they exit themselves with finish or you run low on memory and the OS kills them.

Is Android Service useful when I don't need interprocess communication?

It seems that when I don't need interprocess communication, there's almost no reason to use a Service. The only reason I am aware of is this: if my process has a started Service, the process is less likely to be killed.
I could just have a utility class with dontWantToBeKilled() and canBeKilled() methods, which would start / stop a dummy Service. Apart from that, I won't use Services. Is this right?
Yes, there are other reasons.
Your application runs in a process which can be killed by the system whenever it needs more resources.
According to this a running service has a higher priority than an Activity that isn't in the foreground, meaning that the system is more likely to kill an application process that has an Activity in the background than one that has a Service running in the background.
The documentation for Service states that:
If the service has been started, then its hosting process is
considered to be less important than any processes that are currently
visible to the user on-screen, but more important than any process not
visible. Because only a few processes are generally visible to the
user, this means that the service should not be killed except in
extreme low memory conditions.
So, you can use Services to decrease the likelihood of your application process being killed.
Even though the Service runs in the same process as an Activity nothing guarantees you that your Activity will not be killed.
From Processes and Threads:
For example, an activity that's uploading a picture to a web site
should start a service to perform the upload so that the upload can
continue in the background even if the user leaves the activity. Using
a service guarantees that the operation will have at least "service
process" priority, regardless of what happens to the activity. This is
the same reason that broadcast receivers should employ services rather
than simply put time-consuming operations in a thread.
Conclusion:
If you want to do a background operation that will take a while and it's important it finishes correctly, use a Service.
Its not necessary that if A process started service then,Process is likely to be killed.Actually process remain alive or not it does not affect service.As its completely background procedure.May be the situation that you have started a process to just start a service.So process and service can not interrelated like that.
AFAIK i did not got your final question properly.

Android service killed

I have a Service running in the same process as my Application.
Sometimes the Android OS decides to kill my service (probably due to low memory).
My question is: does my Application get killed along with the Service? or how does it work exactly?
Thanks!
First be sure to read: http://developer.android.com/guide/components/processes-and-threads.html#Lifecycle
The key to this is that on Android a process is just a container for code -- or specifically one or more components (activities, services, receivers, providers). By default all components in a .apk get their own, dedicated process, that they all run in together. This is almost always what you want.
When the user is directly interacting with a component of that process (that is an activity) Android will try very hard to keep that process running, and you won't see it killed except under extraordinary circumstances.
When the user is no longer directly interacting with the process, then it becomes expendable relative to other processes as described in the referenced documentation. That is, empty processes (no interesting components) will be killed before processes holding activities that the user had been using, which will be killed before processes with running services. So having a running service will tend to keep your process around at the expense of other processes.
At the same time, we need to deal well with more and more applications leaving services running, often indefinitely, and often with memory leaks. So has a service runs for an increasingly long time, Android will try less and less hard to keep its process going. Effectively this means moving it down to the background bucket until the out of memory killer takes it out. After that, if the service still wants to run, then a new process will be created for it to be restarted in.
The upshot is that for normal services that are running a long time, it is expected behavior that their process will get killed after a while. This doesn't need to stop the service; a service that wants to continue running will do so, it will just need to be instantiated in a new process.
Of course as long as the user is interacting with an activity in your process, the process won't be killed, since this pulls it to the foreground category regardless of what is going on with any services in it.
Processes are killed by the low memory killer, not Applications. So unless you do extra work to get your Service running in a different process, then your Activities are killed along with your Service.
The low memory killer doesn't try to destroy any objects in your process, although the activity manager may call onDestroy on Activity objects that are no longer needed. But that happens as part of the regular activity lifecycle, not due to low memory conditions.
(By the way, I'm unclear whether you mean "application" in general, or your object that extends Application, or whether you mean your Activities that show the UI.)
An application is something that has a user interface and if you have included a service along with it, then definitely it will be killed since Applications are terminated once the cached application queue becomes full
so create Service separate from application or in other words create an other project for it :)
btw, i'm not an experienced Android developer but thats i think what i learned by watching the Android development life cycle videos by Google

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