Suggestion for using web framework for mobile app & desktop - android

I am involved in developing application for mobile sensors, data from these sensors is to be collected using Android/iOS mobile apps. We want the end users to be able to view this data from desktops also. This data is uploaded to be uploaded to our own database(s) from the mobile apps. I have done this development of the prototypes using native applications (iOS/Android) and implemented web services using Django 1.6 with SQL database. This was just for prototype.
We are at stage where we really need to make this into real product with paying customers, so we are in position to revisit our technology stack question. So I am looking for suggestions.
Currently I am thinking of using Play Framework on the server side. I really haven't seen anything compelling that can provide Native app like feel so we will have to keep developing mobile apps using native libraries. We will interface with our web services using REST API. My concern with Play framework is it doesn't seem to have lot of plugins similar to django, but its early days hoping that situation will improve.
Is this right approach we are very small team ( 4 people, we can hire 2 more probably). Given this is this right technology path I am choosing anything I should be looking at?
I have looked at Parse library but doesn't seem to offer too much data flexibility, geared towards more social media aspects.
We will be using StromPath for user management, any other choices I should be looking at for user management?
We really don't want to do a lot of MVC programming on client side, so on desktop app we will keep it simple jQuery/Javascript & html
-Sam

With jQuery mobile you can assure the look and feel like in a native app. The library it self does media queries and stretch or shrink the content accordingly. So in terms of UI you will not face any problem providing native app like look and feel to the users. For client/server communication I recommend normal ajax functionality so you can dynamically add content.
When working with JQM there are certain rules that you will have to obey.

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Convert My MVC4 Web application to Android?

I have a web application developed on .NET Framework using MVC4. So now I need to create a Android Application for it.
Do I have to convert my entire C# code to Java (The code in
controllers in my MVC app)?
Will it be better if I use Xamarin?
Can I just create new Views for my application as I have controllers
and Models?
How do I approach this?
You won't be able to rip out your Models and Controllers directly from your MVC4 app and stuff it into an Xamarin.Android Application. However you will be able to reuse some of it. Especially the models.
At work I ported a Silverlight app to WP7/Android/iOS apps where a lot of the logic fetching data from servers, models and more were directly copy/pasted. However all the Views and logic for the Views had to be written from scratch as View Ports are different on a Computer monitor and a mobile device, and general UI is very different.
Also using the MVVM pattern helps separating the UI from the Model making the apps more testable and allows more code sharing. For this I use MvvmCross. There is also an MVC alternative called MonoCross. Both are free as in beer and as in speech. Both of these are for Xamarin.Android.
If you are only going to make an Android application and not going to be making it for other platforms as well and don't want to pay the price of the Xamarin products you should be able to make it in native Android. I don't see why this is possible. However you really need to find out what it is you want.
What does your Web App do? My guess is that it somehow manipulates some data in a database. So you would need to alter your Web App to expose that database in some kind of Web Service, maybe RESTful or otherwise.
You will need to layout your Android application such that the Views of the Web App you have fits into the smaller view ports of the mobile devices. A good too for this is to sketch your Android app out on paper and make arrows and annotations. You probably already know the model of your code in the Web App, it would be similar in your Android app. So get started coding the Views and then wire them up to the Web Service.
If you have read this far you might notice my answer is very vague. This is because your question is very vague.
I see more and more professional mobile app from different companies that are simply build upon the same companies' responsive Web Application (Website).
Either they use Cordova or some other technology, I can't say.
The architect is simple: 1- build a professional well-designed angularJs web application; 2- and then use Cordova to convert it to mobile apps (iOS, android, etc.).
Is it really that simple? hmmm.... maybe not! But theoretically it should work.
The good thing is Visual Studio still supports Cordova, even after Microsoft bought Xamarin.
https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/cordova/
You can start here:
https://taco.visualstudio.com/en-us/docs/get-started-first-mobile-app/
Happy Cross Platform Mobile Developing!

Using content management system with iOS or Android

I want to develop a application where part of the data is dynamic like picture , show timing etc.Their are many content management system that use HTML5 and CSS but i want to also use the native iOS or Android Ui like the UISplitView for iPad.How is this possible ? whats the best way to manage and use dynamic data ?
I have been digging into this very exact answer. The best answer I can come up with is called parse.com. Which may not be 100% of what you are looking for. However. What it does is serve as a central database that talks to multiple platforms(windows 8, iOS, Android) and offers up an api for use with every platform with lots of documentation to make programming super easy. http://deployd.com/ also This site is something Ill be looking into which uses a simplified node.js desktop for programming easy objective based functions with a database. Definitely am still looking. Either way the bast thing is to call your view...bring in a few objects...and have these databases feed your objects to specifically answer your question.
As a developer Im used to Joomla and magento. These arent necessarily ios friendly. Anyway, best of luck.
I'd suggest taking a look at Cloud CMS (http://www.cloudcms.com).
Cloud CMS is a cloud content management system that is built around JSON schema. Unlike traditional web content systems, Cloud CMS works with JSON and binary files (either through MongoDB GridFS or Amazon S3). It provides full-text search, structured query and an entire suite of enterprise features for things like workflow, analytics, users and groups and more.
From an iOS or Android viewpoint, you really only need to interact with the REST API. You can do that directly or use one of the client libraries.
Disclaimer: I'm one of the founders of the company. Would love to find out what you think and learn what we can do to improve things. We're having a great time reinventing CMS for mobile.

Do I need to know web application development to make mobile apps? [closed]

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So I am looking to learn both web application development and mobile app development, and I was wondering is there is an overlap between the two. More specifically, is the knowledge of developing web apps essential or even helpful when building mobile apps?
I was under the impression that one had to know basic web app development first (at least server side programming) before being able to develop mobile apps that use the internet (since I assumed a mobile app is just a different client side that would ultimately have to talk to a web application on a server somewhere). However, Googling this brings up discussions about mobile web apps vs. native mobile apps, and this has me confused (for example is Shazaam a native or a web app?).
Please help me understand.
A native app is an app that execute on your mobile.
A web app is an app that open a webPage inside your mobile app and act like a classic web browser.
You don't have to know web dev to do mobile dev, but it can help, programming is the same for every platform, you just have to know new language every time you change, but principles are the same.
Knowledge of developing web application isn't necessary for developing mobile application. But, It will help you a lot. You can also build mobile app with HTML5,CSS & JavaScript.
It depends.
You can develop mobile apps which do not need any web components at all.
I see at least two big issues which make web development extremely useful for mobile apps
You could develop non native mobile app based on web technology. Using jQuery mobile or GWT (or other framework) will support platform independence for you apps. The back-draw is this application could not use all features of the mobile device (e.g. camera), and they will in general have less performance and battery/power efficiency.
I find it very natural to use cloud techniques in combination with mobile. You could use the web to save and share data. And this allows you to build application driven by mobile AND desktop (desktop is much more efficient when it comes to data input)
I would recommend to look at web technology, too.
Sooner or later, your mobile application would need to talk to a a server to do something useful - the phone is the thin-client (relatively speaking). So yes, usually, you would use a server side language (like PHP or RoR) to build some kind of API for your mobile application to talk to and be useful.
For example, since you bought up Shazaam (which is a native application): Shazaam would record a few seconds of music using and then uploads to a web service that does all the heavy lifting of sampling the recorded music and looking it up on a (what I would imagine) giant DB of music for the 'signature' of that music and sending the identified song back to the phone so it can be presented to the user. Somewhere along the way, there is server side code that does this.
I've worked at companies when mobile app development as just starting to take off (2008-09) where there were guys who only coded Java for Android/Blackberry or Objective-C for iOS and didn't know jack about what happens in the backend. For that, they talked the server-side guys who wrote JSP or python to build the APIs their native code would talk to.
There are servics Parse that would allow you do build a "backend" for your mobile application without needing worry about getting your own server or writing server side code. Useful for certain classes of applications.
I hope that all makes sense. There is definitely an overlap between web development (as in server side) and mobile development (native code on the mobile). Learn both, specialize in one if you have to.
You can start learning Mobile App Development without any prior knowledge of Web/Enterprise Application Development.
But, it would definitely make your job easier if you do have that knowledge. You need to know the basics of RESTServices (cause this is mainly how you would interact with a Server from the Mobile App), know how HTTP POST, GET, DELETE,etc work. Also experience with MySQL or SQL whill help your for using SQLite(which is basically your DB on mobile apps). Also if you have some knoledge about ORMs such as Hibernate, may also help you in your mobile app, if you have a large model, and a large data structure that you cache on your device, and it would allow you to use ORMLite(on Android for example).
Definitely all this things will help you a lot, and any other experience regarding programming standards/ design patterns/ Java/ Objective-C will make your work easier, and your developed products more reliable/stable.
Good luck.
A web app is a website (sometimes but not always aimed at a mobile device) using a different set to technologies/languages (php/perl/.net/xhtml/ccs etc) than native app development (obj c, c++, java).
Yes it's useful to have some knowledge of both, but if I was you I would concentrate on one path (one thing at once) either server/back-end/web-app/web-site building or mobile development. I worked over 10 years in a web software development environment before deciding to move to mobile app development. Now I do no web coding, I use existing web-services or work with someone else who does the web-services side of things.
It also depends what types of apps you want to build. If you want to write games for mobile devices then you don't need to learn any web stuff. Use Apple' Game Center for the leader boards etc.
Even if you want to write mobile apps that communicate with web services, I suggest writing a few apps that consume existing web-services first, so you can concentrate on building something that works without trying to learn more than one programming language at once. There are plenty of web-sites out there with web-services you can use to create your own apps.
There are options out there for writing apps using web technologies (phoneGap, titanium etc.) but I would avoid them personally.
Well, basic knowledge on web applications is very useful. After all, as you said, a mobile app is just another type of client. Knowing the principles of web communications is essential. The server side of an application is quite the same. As far as the client side is concerned, transferring your code from java to android is quite easy...!
I think it is upto how you want to build you mobile app. If your app can do something locally, then there is no need to know web programming. But if your app wants to communicate with server, or wants to use web stuff (such as rendering the HTML5 and javascript), then you'd better know web programming. Both native and web app can do the thing, but different pros and cons. There are also platforms that helps you develop the mobile app using html and js then turn it to native code such as titanium.
IMHO, the processing of mobile app should be done on server if possible. In that way, the app can do more and is more efficient. Therefore, knowing web app development will be a big plus.

Phonegap combined with native code for screen scraping app

I am going to develop a cross-platform app that will need some screen scraping capabilities. The app itself looks like an obvious candidate for Phonegap since the UI is quite static and simple (no fast UI interaction needed) - it is basically a kind of foreign currency comparator which needs to show some updated exchange rates and a few simple graphs.
The problem is however that it needs to connect to certain sites and grab the data from there using screen scraping. There is no API. I have many years experience with screen scraping in PHP, and some experience in native Android using jsoup. And the "app" already runs in PHP (on server) for use in browsers, but the client needs a real app.
What are my choices for screen scraping in Phonegap? I reckon that the javascript support available is not suited for screen scraping, but is it possible without too much fuss to build a native layer beneath the Phonegap app?
I have virtually no experience with Phonegap, so I might have missed some obvious solutions. If so, please advice me.
As a side question, does an equivalent of jsoup exist for IOS (objective C)?
Bobik is the very API you are looking for. It lets you tap into its cloud computing power through the API in which you only provide the urls and xpath/jquery queries. Read my article at http://zscraper.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/client-side-web-scraping/ to see Bobik in action.

Advice for a mobile app for reading a publication

I'm considering developing apps for Android and Windows Phone 7 that allow the user to read content from an online producer (newspaper/magazine/blogs etc). This provider has a REST API that should allow for straightforward access to the content. A few questions I have:
I saw an OData demo, where getting data from a feed was super easy, with no parsing of any sort required. Is it worth building an OData provider on top of the publication's existing API, just to make it easier for the mobile apps to get data?
I have heard that C++ can be used on wp7 and Android. Is there any reason to develop an app core in C++, then interact with the device APIs in C#/Java? Or is the core logic layer of the app so thin that it's not worth the hassle? It seems like there's really not that much to developing a publication reader app - basically just a GUI on top of an API that provides all the data.
Or, would it make more sense to just develop a mobile version of this publication's web site? Then there could be one service for all mobile platforms. What are the pros and cons of an app that runs on the device as opposed to a website specially built for mobile devices? (Like the Gmail, Google Docs, and GTalk "apps" for the iPhone.)
Thanks.
C++ is not a development language for Windows Phone 7. There are two development platforms for WP7: Silverlight and XNA. There is no possibility of interop with a C++ module.
As far as I know, C++ cannot currently be used to develop WP7 applications. I would check on that before you try to go too far down a cross-compatibility road.
That said, the UI between WP7 and the iPhone is really, really different - the backend code is so small in comparison to well-written UI later, I'd just write two separate apps. It may seem like a time savings but either your app is going to look like it does not belong to one platform or the other, or you'll be spending more time trying to keep the compatible stuff working OK on two platforms.

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